>I just wanted to let you know that I redid our SOCA calculation >from the 2015 PRE, but removing the pressure force with constant >desnity (i.e., burgulence). I actually found exactly zero for >both the kinetic and magnetic shear-current effects, for arbitrary >viscosity or resistivity (although, being SOCA, it's only really >valid when they are large). There is still a nonzero rotational >(Radler effect) contribution for both, but it looks quite different >from the case with turbulence – happy to provide the expression if >you're interested for some reason. Thanks for the further clarifications. > The difference compared to the result in your appendix is probably >because our calculation is perturbative in the shear. Our analysis was also perturbative in S. >So it is a bit of a different limit, and simpler. We did notice some >differences between our CE2 calculations (which are effectively >SOCA but non-perturbative in the shear) and the analytic ones, >so this is not altogether surprising. >One other thing worth mentioning: without the pressure you >indeed see a magnetic contribution to the standard (diagonal) >beta effect (i.e., turbulent diffusion), whereas with the >pressure this goes away to zero, as well known. This isn't >surprising (it fits with previous results and our JPP cartoon) >but it's nice to see in the formal calculation.