Hello Maarit and others, I just wanted to let you know that I redid our SOCA calculation from the 2015 PRE, but removing the pressure force with constant desnity (i.e., burgulence). I actually found exactly zero for both the kinetic and magnetic shear-current effects, for arbitrary viscosity or resistivity (although, being SOCA, it's only really valid when they are large) .There is still a nonzero rotational (Radler effect) contribution for both, but it looks quite different from the case with turbulence – happy to provide the expression if you're interested for some reason. The difference compared to the result in your appendix is probably because our calculation is perturbative in the shear. So it is a bit of a different limit, and simpler. We did notice some differences between our CE2 calculations (which are effectively SOCA but non-perturbative in the shear) and the analytic ones, so this is not altogether surprising. One other thing worth mentioning: without the pressure you indeed see a magnetic contribution to the standard (diagonal) beta effect (i.e., turbulent diffusion), whereas with the pressure this goes away to zero, as well known. This isn't surprising (it fits with previous results and our JPP cartoon) but it's nice to see in the formal calculation. Best, Jono